Our unemployment rate in South Carolina, I believe is 11.7% and you people are still concern about whether the president is a U.S. Citizen? You're all are a bunch of rednecks. He is a U.S. Citizen and he is christian. Get over yourselves. Why is it so hard for people to believe an African American person when there tell you something? All of this hatred for the president is because of his race. When are people going to get over this race issue? People are people regardless of the color of there skin. Grow up and stop living in the past.There is know race that is better than another. We all are the same. The people who partipated in this survey ought to be ashamed of themselves. I am so sick and tired of people blaming the president for this mess. This mess was created by George Bush and the republican party. There is know way that President Obama could be blame for this. He has only been in office for three years. If the republicans were willing to compromise and work with the president, then things could be a whole alot better, but there answer for everything is tax cuts for the wealthy and blaming everything on the president, when there are the problem. I don't know why people can't see this, or is it that there don't want to see it?

Just goes to show what happens when your state falls well below most other states in education. South Carolina truly must be full of brain dead people.

SC lawmakers: "Proving that even Obama's right hand is wrong and helping Haley take over the free world all the while stealing from the poor and giving to the rich". That should be their new slogan.

30% and this author devotes the article to mislead that Republicans in Sc... Yellow journalism at its best

omg get out of your meth lab!

Casual observer, I don't know what the hell you are talking about and I think you don't either. Everything that you said is stupid. I feel really sorry for you, because apparently you have been either talking to the wrong people or you are listening to the wrong person. You sound like that racist fat idiot Rush Lambaurgh.

News FLASH: 30% of SC Republicans stand by their mail box every day waiting for a check from Bill Gates for forwarding a few emails. Another 27% refuse to leave the state for fear they will fall off the edge of the flat earth. 31% sit by their chimney waiting for Santa to slide down while a slightly smaller percentage put their false teeth under their pillow everynight waiting for the tooth fairy.

36% of people polled believe Obama is not a US Citizen even when PRESENTED WITH EVIDENCE (i.e. a birth certificate) that he was indeed born in the state of Hawaii.

30% of Americans believe Obama is a Muslim...

...Okay. Why is it any of your business? What does that have to do with America, besides perhaps acting as a cataylst for Americans perhaps taking the time to consider what freedom of Religion means. Obama says he is a Christian. That discussion should stop there. It shouldn't even be brought into discussion in the first place.

Meanwhile, you guys are actually measuring intelligience based on whether a person is a Democrat or Republican? Really?

South Carolinians are obviously being taught critical thinking skills with all that budget money going towards Education.

BOTH PARTIES ARE THE SAME, PEOPLE. Republicans and Democrats both represent whoever pays their campaign. That is all. They do not represent you.

Annoy a politician today and THINK. Ignore the fact that our education system is not designed to teach critical thinking skills and THINK CRITICALLY ANYWAYS.

even in south carolina we elect conservatives who somehow end up as rhinos...we de-lected ingles, lindsey graham is next to go. with all the spending and illegals, our children are screwed.

The only people that would make comments that President Obama is not an American, is a Muslim, was born in Kenya and is a socialist are uneducated morons that are racist and "just plain stupid". By these idiots making such claims shows how far behind South Carolina is in education, literacy and racism. Any educated person that would make a claim that our President was anything less than a true American of Christian belief would have to be classified as an imbecile.

MIMI! another ignorant rant ty

Joey the only person ranting ignorance is YOU

luv u 2 babe

Mimi,

Please refrain from name calling and try to follow our terms of our use which can be viewed here: http://mauldin.patch.com/terms

Further name-calling will not be tolerated and will result in your comments being deleted. If you disagree with someone, please keep the disagreement to the issues.

Thank you,
Shawn

no more name calling it's only free speech when the Press says so!

Mimi,

As in many places, The Golden Rule prevails - treat and speak to others as you'd like to be treated or spoken to. Have a nice evening.

-Shawn

Thanks mom for reminding me of the golden rules. However that has nothing to do with my question. I asked you why my statements are anymore offensive than others? I find it questionable why you address me personally instead of moderating the entire blog. I am starting to believe I might have hit a PERSONAL sore spot.

Mimi get a life

Wow.....

Every reply....just wow.

But I guess it takes all types to make the world go 'round. Thanks for the entertainment guys.

Vote the (wo)man, not the party. I could care less whether you're red, blue or green - all I want is someone who listens and understands. I don't want someone who sways their political compass to any one direction to appease a small percentage of the American people on the right or the left. There are 300+ million citizens in this country -- learn to live with each other.

I don't care what color the president's skin is, but he promised a lot of things that he hasn't delivered on, and I'm much worse off today that 3 years ago, and the state of SC has suffered with attacks on our Boeing plant because we don't support the unions. Now, the president is suing our governor because he doesn't like our protecting ourselves from illegal aliens. I'm just not pleased with the RESULTS, and frankly, I'm tired of hearing that it was Bush's fault. Bush has been gone for three years, and there has been ample time for a new administration to make positive changes. I see a lot of bad things happening.

@Karen [part 1]
re: "he promised a lot of things that he hasn't delivered on, "

and the GOPers have delivered what? of course they did vote to make "in God we trust" America's motto (i thought it was)...and this created how many jobs...and on a state level they tried to eliminate unions...and this created how many jobs...and was soundly repealed in ohio.

for a short list of BO's accomplishments...see: stanley seigler, 12:17am on Thursday, November 10, 2011 @ "Romney Ignores SC, Keeps Frontrunner Status" thread.

one might not see these as positive...but they are more than done by the "block BO congress"..with "a do something" congress he could have done more...

re: 'and I'm much worse off today that 3 years ago...'
sorry to hear you are worse...OTOH many seniors are better off...lower drugs cost (not meth)...and 30-40 million will now have health insurance (care)

[to be continued]

@Karen [part 2]
re: ...we don't support the unions.

not entirely true...of course there are politics involved (what's new)...however;

"The NLRB argues Boeing is retaliating against workers in Washington state to punish them for past strikes by building the plant in a right-to-work state, where unions are not as prominent.

[CLIP] Obama says companies need to have the freedom to relocate work, though they must follow the law when doing so. http://www.seattlepi.com/business/article/Obama-says-US-companies-need-freedom-to-relocate-1446060.php#ixzz1dhCFHFxt

BTW

[2004] Boeing shifting its software programming work to India and other countries...[2006] 70 percent of the airframe of the company’s 787 Dreamliner will be made overseas...

SC and WA should work together to keep more jobs in america...so much wasted time/energy spent arguing party politics...

re: "...he doesn't like our protecting ourselves from illegal aliens."

BO and others believe immigration laws should be federal, not governed by each state...

focus should be on providing comprehensive immigration reform...individual state laws further confuse the issue and in some instance pander to racialist voters.

re: I'm tired of hearing that it was Bush's fault.

me too...it's the GOP-tpers, free-market ideologues, and true believers' fault...

It is really dumb for people that represent a political party to be so ignorant. It's all about the fact that President Obama was elected by the majority of America in the last election and many of the "rednecks" and racist that make up the GOP in South Carolina simply can't stand it. Obama has been called everything from a Socialists, non-American and Muslim. All this because of ignorance and hate.
South Carolina is the dumbest state in the union.

@Len Hathaway
re: It is really dumb for people that represent a political party to be so ignorant.

some are some are not...i am pleasantly surprised by many of the comments/positions here on patch...and it's not just SC...nor my beloved South.

most of the GOP candidates (none from SC) and cheney support water boarding, say it works, and is not torture...that huntsman is low man on GOP totem pole speaks volumes to the true believer, ideologues intellect.

impossible to understand the GOP philosophy...it does not work as proved in 1929 and 2008...their positions have not changed since 1929...it just becomes more ingrained in their policies.

sad so many are held in contempt and cynically used by politicians and the greedy 1% who know better.

No we cannot blame just Obama, both parties have destroyed this great country.

Obama is a socialist and the problem with socialists is that THEY themselves don't know the definition! They should be proud but they hide behind a so called caring, compassionate label. Is it not simply amazing that the Clintons are multi millionaires simply by working for the government? NEVER held a private job in their lives!

Where did he get the lying from?

It only took 60 years for all of Europe to fall from their socialistic policies.

Joe between you and Lone Rangers side kick couldn't create on intelligent thought. I don't believe you know the difference between socialism and facsism I think you are total clueless to progressive and very much delusional about conservatism. I think you might spend some time looking at the history of this country and realizing that the disagreements American have didn't just show up with Obama they have been around for DECADES. Tonto is the lone rangers side kick for a reason cause he is too stupid to stay on his horse without instruction.

awww MIMI I miss you too! always look forward to your ignorant rants, you and stan the man should get married and have little commie babies

@Joe
re: It only took 60 years for all of Europe to fall from their socialistic policies.

it only took 8 years to fall into the 1929 great depression...ditto 8 years to fall into the 2008 great recession...

really joe your comments have little if any relevance to the issues and just indicate you have no facts to back your off the wall comments...ditto tonto...

try stating one fact with appropriate references to back it up...then maybe there would be a point to discuss...surely you have at least one...

a possible start would be to show socialists dont know the definition of socialism...then state your definition...

BTW, tonto, it's NOT just fancy word for communism and it's not a dirty word...do you all know tenets of the christian religion, socialism and communism are similar?

@tonto and his alter ego joe

your comments for the most part are irrelevant and baseless re our country's problems...there is nothing to be gained from further discussion...a waste of your and my time...apologizes for getting involved...

you two enjoy your meaningless discussions re comrade BO's birth, socialism and his muslim religion which you seem believe are real... and you so wrongly believe have caused our problems...

"Obama's father was a Muslim and a communist. Something had to rub off ya think ?"
Tonto - that's the most ignorant thing I've seen posted here.

"@Joe
re: It only took 60 years for all of Europe to fall from their socialistic policies."
Joe - I think the least socialist countries in Europe are in the most trouble. Italy, Spain, Greece.
the most socialist countries are doing pretty well considering they have wolves on their Wall Streets too. Germany is bailing out most of the EU.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg - are doing very well.
England is moving farther to the right all the time.
A humerous story about them privatizing, but privatizing the wrong industries.
I was in England three years ago. I took a train from Lincoln (north England) to London. It took four (4) different train lines, four tickets and four stops to make a 300 mile journey. Where before recently you could buy a single ticket, say from Edinburgh to London like Amtrak, buy a ticket from Columbia to NYC.
My point is England is England is trying to privatize but is having real growing pains from it.

It's true. Spain is a constitutional monarcy; Italy is real close to fascist, a relatively small, rich oligarcy running everything and Greece the same. They all have elements of socialism, like state owned railways but mostly it's the a small number of super rich who build, own corporations etc.

"social systems, health care, retiremet, vacations, benefits, etc etc"
That's what govt's were organized to do, the most good for the most people, equitably.
Regulated free enterprise is probably best for America. Social systems which protect people in a free enterprise system are good and necessary. Would you do away with the FDA or CDC? I doubt it. Would you do away with the SEC?
And leaving Wall Street, and everyone's 401K, in the hands of unregulated Wall Street wolves is just plain stupid.

"and a host of other great thinkers"
I've been quoting a great American thinker, Lewis Brandeis. and i recommend him to you instead of that high school level novel "Atlas Shrugged." Social Darwinism went out with FDR.
Do you know the "Phossy Jaw Case" in the Supreme Court, about 1916. Phossy refers to phosferous.
Coal mine owners let workers, as young as 13, work in phosferous infected mine shafts, wouldn't put in fresh air blowers. They said it cost to much. Phossy Jaw was a medical condition that literally ate away a person's jawbone. Just left skin flapping where a jawbone was.
The mine owners argued that it was a free country, anyone that didn't want to work there could quit. It was America after all.
Lewis Brandeis led the court fight to begin to override this kind of thinking. And he won.

And Jefferson, Madison, Adams, Marshall and Hamilton were Federalists. They believed in a stronger central govt. They saw that 13 states, each with veto power over Congressional legislation was unworkable.

I meant to add, read "The Federalist Papers." It was written by the Founding Fathers mentioned above, and others.

"and the greedy 1% who know better."
I have a theory. I have no idea if it's true or not but I think it's true.
the 1% have advisors. The 1% and the advisors know the world just passed 7 billion people. Malthus said population will increase until food runs out. Then the weak or unprepared will die. Nature.
I think the 1% are in a race to ensure their survival; on islands, gated communities, by anonymity. by private security guards etc etc.
To do that they need money.

What we have in America is a culture of corruption at every level of government!

"I have a theory"
I've been trying to figure out how we became so divided and selfish as a people. In the 40's we had the greatest generation, the 50's a sense of shared responsibility, the 60's a revolt against unbridled US power unleashed on the Vietnamese(that killed 1M Viets, 57K Americans).
Now all we're about is get mine, to hell with you and I don't care who gets hurt.
Jim DeMint (Demented) and joe Wilson are leaders of that thinking.

"high because people are UNEMPLOYABLE!"
This point is true, I think. And at the risk of sounding racist, black kids have to stay in school, beyond high school, learn a trade instead of living with grandma and listening to hip-hop music.
That life comntributes nothing.

"another huge problem caused by social programs that have utterly failed"
this comment is dead wrong. Our highest priority was in the 50's when unions were strong. Unions negotiate and know their companies.
No, one problem is Wall Street greed, under regulation and laws that encourage out-sourcing. We fix those, with Tax Reform, and we'll be go a long way toward fixing America.
And education beyond high school.

@George Grace re: "at the risk of sounding racist..."

have no idea if you are a racist...but almost anytime one says, "at the risk of sounding racist"...one sounds racist...kinda like the anti-semitist who says, "some of my best friends or jews...

as a child (not a carpet bagger) of my beloved South, i know racist remarks and racist code words when i hear them.
and your remarks are racist...why say "black kids"...why not just kids...i know white and black kids who now are unemployable...but with appropriate training could be employable...

what you say re black kids applies to all kids...many which have had the benefit of better schools and their parents/grandparents werent the victims of jim crow laws and poll taxes...

further the lack of jobs is NOT a unemployable kids issue...it is a great recession brought on by the unregulated free market of 2001-2008 which lost jobs.

re: "I [geo] think the 1% are in a race to ensure their survival"

this is really off the wall and somewhat relates to "atlas shrugged"...which could/does relate to inefficient government...not just to a socialist government.

BTW i will only respond to your comments...not to any tonto joe crap...

"Almost 75 percent say the President is "socialist"
75% of the people don't know the definition of socialist.

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəlɪzəm/ is an economic system in which the means of production are commonly owned and controlled cooperatively; or a political philosophy advocating such a system.[1] As a form of social organization, socialism is based on co-operative social relations and self-management; relatively equal power-relations and the reduction or elimination of hierarchy in the management of economic and political affairs.[2][3]

George, see where the definition states that"or a political philosophy advocating such a system"? Case closed go argue with yourself in a closet. Obama is as SOCIALIST

Let's see George Obama wanted a health care bill controlled by the government, (socialism) He bailed out the banks, auto workers, and yes so did the Republican socialist George Bush! He is going to bail out the Post Office, Tell you what George why don't you ask Obama what he is?

I wouldn't have bailed out the big banks. I would have let them spend all their money covering their debts on the mortgage loan debacle and I would have used the money, federal money, to cover FDIC guarentees to small (relatively) depositors.
Then when the banks failed, they would have come back as smaller institutions.
But I'm not enough of an economist to know what that would have done to overseas banks, but if they bought the "bundled" mortgages from our banks, let them fail too and come back smaller.

What I want to know is what happened to PMI insurance that everyone had on those 100% mortgages? That was insurance paid to the banks in case of default, I have NEVER seen one investigative piece on that!

The stock market is not important except as it affect people's 401K's.
I think of the stock market like the car market.
If I buy a new car the workers in Detroit benefit. I bought their product.
But if I but a used car Detroit workers don't benefit.
The stock market is mostly used cars, stocks traded back and forth that have already been bought once from the issuer.
I do own stocks, a smaller, that have been issued from the company; Westinghouse, GE etc.
Buying from the company benefits the company and its workers.
Buying other stocks, that someone else owns, is a waste of money unless you just want to play the market to make money. I don't.

George, you simply have lost all credibility with your comment that Obama is not a socialist and that unless you want to "play" the market, you don't buy stocks, sadly your are as uninformed about the stock market as you are politics

"Obama wanted a health care bill controlled by the government, (socialism)"
Obama wanted to deliver affordable heathcare to millions of Americans that can't afford UnitedHealthcare, including millions of children.
He wanted single payer health care. Repub's blocked it in congress. Why? because of lobbying and political contributions to Repub's.
So we ended up with abortion bill we have now. He compromised.
You, like the Repub's, think in terms of systems, not people. If you think of people you wouldn't think Obama's health care bill is bad, you would think of it as a first step toward single payer system.
Even Hungary, the poorest couintry in Europe, has a nat'l heath care system.
Health is a fundamental need of people and all civilized govt's try to deliver on it.

Harry you are so right, I moved to SC for one main reason, I was tired of the failed socialistic policies of NJ, we finally got a Conservative Governor (Christie) who has started to turn the ship but I really believe it is too little too late, people are FLEEING NJ because of the property taxes which in some cases are 20k a year in on a modest middle class home, why so they can pay cops 150k a year who then retire at age 40 and get another state job! What I don't get is why these whining liberals down here don't move NORTH?

IN DEFENSE OF BANKS, THEY WERE FORCED TO GIVE LOANS THAT THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE.....CAN YOU SAY FANNIE AND FREDDIE? CHRIS DODD AND BARNEY FRANK SHOULD BE CELLMATES. BANKS FOR SELF PRESERVATION SOLD THEM TO FANNIE AND FREDDIE. WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOME, THE NORM WAS 20% DOWN. NOW ITS WAY LESS OR EVEN NOTHING. THIS IS BIGGEST MISTAKE IN THE HISTORY OF OUR COUNTRY.

Harry, you can't say ANYTHING about blacks, why it's..... racist! No one wants to have an intelligent discussion on why blacks are unemployable!

Oh No Harry you have it all wrong according to the whining liberals, you see it goes like this: God created Heavens and the Earth in six days and then on the 7th, HE BLAMED GEORGE BUSH!

@George Grace
re: " [BO care] a first step toward single payer system."

and a good first step...health care is an inalienable right...sad it will take years to reach single payer (universal) health care in USA.

thanks to the christian (who sell all they have and give to the poor, as Christ instructed); maintain status quo; conservatives, we are the only western democracy that does not realize it's a right...and most/all have better (than po folks in USA), cheaper, care than our great country...

re: "75% of the people don't know the definition of socialist." [geo say]

maybe...but would like to believe most are smarter than the politicians think...the ohio voter repudiation of its union busting legislation, some what confirms the opine...as does the "occupy wall street" movement...and WI gov scott walker's recall will be further confirmation...

the GOPers have been/are on the wrong side of history...they fought social security and medicare...many GOPers think they are the 1%...and sad the greedy 1% cynically use them...well not all 1%-ers:

[CLIP] The Patriotic Millionaires contend that Americans with incomes over $1 million should shoulder a larger share of the tax burden...'But somehow, the Republicans have managed to convince 98 percent of the people that they are affected by how 2 percent of the population is taxed.'[end clip] http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/raise-taxes-for-rich,-patriotic-millionaires-urge#ixzz1e4jqVIow

Yes Cornell every conservative is a racist and a bigot. Call me all the names you need to sleep at night